:properties: :id: 2ba59995-1fc7-46a7-aa0b-cceca4134a7f :roam_refs: [cite:@chungPythonPackagingWhy2021] :end: #+title: Python Packaging: Why don't you just? #+date: 2021-12-21 17:31:18 +08:00 #+date_modified: 2022-06-21 12:05:30 +08:00> #+published: 2021-11-22 #+author: Tzu-ping Chung (TP) #+source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpP07nZiicE #+language: en * The state of Python packaging - Python predates the common packaging ecosystem we all interact today thus it has some artifacts from history - back in the day, for someone to use a dependency, they have to download the source; in Python's case, they chose with the most common way to download a file: simple tarballs - as more platforms grow and being supported, there are more incentives to make delivering dependencies faster but each output may contain different metadata; this results in big packages to [[https://pypi.org/project/Pillow/#files][create huge lists of possible outputs]] - for the package manager to know the metadata, it has to download the whole package and run the build script - however, this simplicity also brings advantage that you can simply create a Python package repository by simply building the wheels and dropping them along with the source in a directory - another artifact to consider is Python supports a lot of platforms; it is considered supported when Python is confirmed to run on a platform; it cannot support building all wheels for all platforms so at some point when doing a =pip install= of a big package, it has to build the package from source - metadata are just placed in files which is a good thing since they can be placed next to the sources * The answer to the question - third system effect; the first few efforts went well but some people want to create a better system with more ambitious goals and a grander vision; except it didn't work out and the attempts will inspire another group to try a better version - the quick succession of attempts at standardizing Python packaging fragmented the packaging process by offering multiple ways to do the goal; as more attempts have made, there's lesser central driving force